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I just stumbled upon a program named 'Poker-Edge'.

This program analyzes the other players for you, hence giving you an edge you normally wouldnt have if you lacked real experience. Personally i consider that cheating since the player uses computer aid to make up for a lack of skill. And even skilled players could still profit since the program has precise stats on every participating player. But isnt that like doping in sports? To use some 'external' means to artificially enhance your abilities? They even call it 'stalking' themselves,...all in all rather fishy if you ask me.

See this video to see what i mean, the narrator uses the prog to analyze the others and it seems to work pretty well for him:






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Phoenixx, you are so right
On-line gambling is totoally legitimate
everything is honest and above-board

STAMP OUT THE CHEATS!!
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these programs have been around for awhile but they're getting more sophisticated all the time. if i understand correctly, this particular program has an enormous database being added to constantly that will let you sit down at a brand new table and instantly have a history on every player there. that's scary, but at the same time the writing was probably on the wall.

anyway, this kind of stuff has become routine for online play, which is part of why the pros advise you to cultivate an image and then play against that image in key hands. any seasoned player does this kind of rough tabulating in their head, but not as precisely as the programs do.
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Makes you wonder how they get the data?

Gaming sites wouldn't sell it, would they?
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Makes you wonder how they get the data?

Gaming sites wouldn't sell it, would they?
Good question, nic says the prog comes with a database but how is this database being created?

At any rate, it just shows once again that to some people nothing is low enough when it comes to money. Even if its just a couple of dollars. But whats more; in the old west they have outright shot you when you cheated at Poker. Nowadays there isnt a damn thing you can do since you wont even know if somebody does. A shame what money can do to some people, and it is getting worse by the day,...
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the database is being created similar to how search engines 'spider' web pages. you don't need to be playing at a table to observe it... all you need is an account with the poker site in question.

this kind of thing is not really a big deal IMO. there are still so many bad players out there, regardless of whether they use programs like this, that you can still win and/or earn money from them.

plus, the more serious you are about poker, the more you can't get used to relying on these helper programs-- you have to prepare yourself to rely on your own thinking for the face-to-face tournaments.
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I think this ought to be generally forbidden. The Poker software should be able to check for such 'aids' and report a player that uses one to the host so they can ban them for not playing fair.

I mean take me for example, i am probably what you would call a mediocre player at best and have never played a game of online Poker in my entire life. Now if i were to join such a group the last thing i would want is to get sacked solely because someone has a way of calculating the game based on my playing habits. Thats total bullshit in my opinion, nobody should have such info on their opponents, and i was very pleased to read that some Poker hosts have already forbidden the use of such 'aids'. After all nobody would want to go to a casino where the games are rigged either,...
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the thing is- what the program is giving you is just information. it can't tell you how to actually play. this is why i don't consider these programs to be cheating... or at best, it's a very mild case of cheating.

IMO you're much better off going over your played hands and analysing what you did and why. and asking what others think about how you played.

you can play online poker for free, btw.
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the thing is- what the program is giving you is just information. it can't tell you how to actually play.
I realize that. But if you have seen the video then you have seen that the guy has ultimately calculated his moves solely on the info that the program provided. In other words if he hadnt known who is a green fish and who is a bomb etcetera he might have played totally different in all cases since he would have had only his instinct to rely on. And then he might have lost, just as it should be if the other player is better.

I think what im trying to say is that making use of external aids to gain an advantage is not gambling, it is playing-it-safe by making use of unfair means. And that is inherently cheating,...
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Something like 'a card counter', ain't it?

Yeah Phoenixx, I was wondering about cookies sniffing for cheats too, or maybe a P2P approach where each player plays through a central server-side program that informs all players of requests made to the server or offsites by each player, or in this case, data requests made by the card counters, same as a "what others are downloading" function in a p2p prog.
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I realize that. But if you have seen the video then you have seen that the guy has ultimately calculated his moves solely on the info that the program provided. In other words if he hadnt known who is a green fish and who is a bomb etcetera he might have played totally different in all cases since he would have had only his instinct to rely on. And then he might have lost, just as it should be if the other player is better.
yes, but it's nothing you can't do yourself, and should do yourself, if you are serious about poker.
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btw, kevin, there's a nice game of poker here:
http://www.youdagames.com/Governor%2...ame-info-2818/

not online- you play against computer opponents.
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It says 19.95,...is that a demo?
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Ah, i see, not 'online' but still via the browser.

Anyhow, i dont get the rules of that one. 7 cards, one player won because he had 4 cards of the same color.

Thats now how i learned Poker, the game i know is being played with 5 cards and 4 times the same color would be worth nothing,...
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right, it's the flash version that lets you play through one town.
the full version for sale lets you play through all the towns in texas. (but even the flash version takes a while to finish)

that version of poker is called "texas holdem", the most popular form of poker in the world.
in that version you are dealt two private cards and combine them (as does everyone else) with five community cards to see who can make the best hand. if you're only used to five card poker then texas holdem will be a little confusing at first.

btw, the rules for hands are exactly the same as other versions of poker, ie it still takes five cards of the same suit to make a flush...
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Im doing better.

Took a couple of games but now ive grasped it.

The cards on the table are being used by all players and whoever has the two better hand-cards combined with the visible cards on the table wins. In effect like the 5 card variant but it seems to have a few differing winning combinations. Like that 4 of one color (diamonds or spades etc.) can win, i didnt see that before. But perhaps thats only if nobody on the table has at least a pair, you know, to determine a winner at all.

At first i lost pretty bad but then i grabbed a couple of nice pots. Im playing Beginner Level,...


EDIT: Theres one thing though that i still dont understand. Namely 'BigBlind' and 'SmallBlind'. What meaning do these terms have?
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the blinds are mandatory bets, sort of an alternate to the 'ante' system.
they circle the table with the dealer button.

the dealer button represents the person who gets to act last once the flop (first three community cards) is played.

btw, i say again- four cards of any color are worthless. you still need five to make a flush.

to help understand texas holdem, it might be worth watching some others play hands. here is an episode of celebrity poker showdown with some players you might recognise:
" title="YouTube - Celebrity Poker Showdown - Pt1" target="_blank">YouTube - Celebrity Poker Showdown - Pt1
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Well, maybe i didnt see it right but i could have sworn that one player won because he had four of a color. I know this is normally nothing, thats why i wondered about this odd winning combination.

Anyhow, thanks for the link. I watched Pt1 and will watch the others later. Seems to be the right show to pick up a few pointers,...thanks very much,...

(And thanks for the game too, i really didnt think it would be so much fun!)
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holdem is a fun game!
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I just found a nice little trick i would like to share.

If you want to play Governor of Poker in 'fullscreen' rather than the small popup window, load the game normally then rightclick into the white space on the right and call up the sourcecode. Then look for a line that reads something like this:

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http://www.youdagames.com/flash-files/GovernorofPoker-2818?gamesession=some-real-long-number
where 'some-real-long-number' is your session ID.

Copy the URL (without the screensize bit after the first comma) and paste it into the URL field of the browsers main window.

Click Go or press Enter and viola, much bigger playfield.

I like that better, although the session ID will probably change after the connection is terminated,...

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good deal.
another way to do it (permanently) is to capture the flash file (6mb) to your hard drive and run it from there in your browser. press F11 to display it in full screen mode in firefox.
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good deal.
another way to do it (permanently) is to capture the flash file (6mb) to your hard drive and run it from there in your browser. press F11 to display it in full screen mode in firefox.
Capture it?

That would be cool, but how do i do that?
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there are different ways to do it, but the way i usually use is to right-click, view page info, choose "media" and scroll down the list until you find embedded addresses that end in "swf". then click "save as".

this is also useful for ripping out media from sites that try to mask them (ex: images from IMDB).
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Thx, but this doesnt seem to work for me.

I can call up the page info and go to media but there is only one line in the list and that is the URL. It is marked as 'embedded' and has no extension. When i download it i get a .htm file, and when i start that i get a tab full of odd chars and numbers which looks like you would read a binary with notepad.

Any other tips?


EDIT: Never mind. I renamed the htm to swf and then it worked. Just needs to be dragged into the browser window, just like an extension.

Thanks again for the hint.
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oh, i see what you mean!
that's pretty unusual for a flash game.

i guarantee you, with most flash games you won't have to do that much work to capture them. :S

there used to be a nice FF add-in called "unplug" to capture this stuff but it was never updated for the 3.0 FF.

EDIT: just associate SWF's with firefox and they'll automatically start when double-clicked, ie no need to drag them anywhere.
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Hey, that's a pretty cool flash game, I've tried a few other Texas holdem games and this is the first one I've liked. If I get into it I may have to buy the full version (might be worth $20). Managed to win one tournament and one cash game in easy mode, with several complete washouts as well...
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Yep, the game is real nice. I have also downloaded the demo to play it outside of the browser (btw. its 100% identical to the flash version) but it had only 60 minutes of trial play, which i found a tad short. So i went to see if there is a demo with a longer trial time available and in deed i found a version from another software studio (BigFish Games) which was labeled as 'portable'. This version turned out to be only one executable and so far it doesnt seem to have any restrictions at all. Im not sure if that is actually a pirated full version but it is likely, i will know it if it keeps working for more than a couple of days.

If i keep coming back to it i might buy it as well. Otherwise i can still play a round for free in the browser from time to time,...
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if you can make it out of the first town then you know it's the commercial (or pirated) version.

the game doesn't really get any more complex, nor does a storyline ever happen, but the tournaments, stakes and rewards all get larger. as do your holdings- after awhile you can sit back and make money off your properties when you are short of entry fees...
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if you can make it out of the first town then you know it's the commercial (or pirated) version. the game doesn't really get any more complex,
Well in that case the flash version will do for me. Im nowhere near good enough to win a whole game even on beginner anyway,...if i would actually win one then it would be purely by luck. (Made 3rd once and even that was more luck than anything else.)


See you later, im not so well at the moment so i will be taking a time out for a couple of days. Perhaps ill be back at the weekend,...
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if you can make it out of the first town then you know it's the commercial (or pirated) version.

the game doesn't really get any more complex, nor does a storyline ever happen, but the tournaments, stakes and rewards all get larger. as do your holdings- after awhile you can sit back and make money off your properties when you are short of entry fees...
Does the AI get any better? I'm starting to figure out how the different players work and am starting to win in the flash version at the hard difficulty level. The info on the game web site says the players get better as you move up.

Guess not much point in buying the game if the opponents don't really get any harder.
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