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Old 05-23-2017, 05:01 PM
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When I read the filthy fucking lies you wrote in the shoutbox the day after the election, I asked you one question: have you no sense of decency? You don't. Go fuck yourself. Oh, and stuff your AM radio conspiracy bullshit up your ass.
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I came here for the PINBALL and better understanding of how they work. Starting to post in this forum was therapy for me. It helped and forced me to slowly improve from devastating illness in 2011. I love helping others with pinball repairs. I appreciate interacting with every single *soul* @ Pinball Nirvana. I wish I had had more time to converse and learn from those now departed.
i appreciate you and pinballDaveH being able to do that, and for the people who visit and post their Q's. i'm so far behind you guys in PB repair knowledge that i try to just stay out of the way and learn something.

as i've personally experienced many a time, trying to make a tasteful joke about a contentious topic is something that can easily backfire. trump is already one of the most despised presidents in history, so... you know.
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Well, Keith, maybe you should have stuck with helping pinball people instead of posting your nut-job conspiracy theories. I actually enjoyed your company on this site until you started to act like a raving lunatic. If spewing your insane, hateful bullshit is part of your "therapy", then do it in your psychiatrist's office. Pinball Nirvana is not your fucking therapist and none of us care about your ignorant, hateful twaddle.

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When you slithered in here in 2011, how many posts about politics did you see? I'm pretty sure the answer is pretty damn close to zero. We talk about movies, we talk about music, we talk about books... hell, sometimes we even talk about pinball. The only person here who wanted to blather on about "the new world order" was you. Why is that, Keith? Why would you think anyone here would have any interest in your bizarre and idiotic right-wing fever dreams? None of us were talking about that horseshit. Why did you have to butt in? Back then it was just irritating. Now that you've transformed yourself into a country-ruining fucktard who was stupid enough to vote for a game-show host... really, a third-rate game-show host! who's a bought-and-paid-for Russian stooge!... well, now I wish JPH would kick you the fuck off this site so we don't have to listen to your thoughtless shit anymore. I wouldn't want to speak for him but, judging by other things he's written here, he probably thinks you're a country-ruining fucktard, too. Why don't you go spoil the fun at some other pinball site with that crap? See how long VP Forums lets you stick around when you run off at the mouth about the "new world order."

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i still say that all this is not any one person's fault:
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cliffs notes: our whole fragile house of cards is beyond finished. (although moss growing on the antarctic continent seems like an especially finishing touch, yeesh)

REGARDLESS, isn't every day that we're still alive an opportunity to be grateful and enjoy life, such as we can...?
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I DO have to ask this, though-- why would some people POSSIBLY think that a lifelong scam-artist / bullshit artist would entail a pragmatic leader in charge of peoples' interests at large?

WHAT exactly was the drug of choice there, if i may ask...?
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I do realize that it's not one person's fault. But you know what? Pinball Nirvana has been my internet home for a long time... over a freaking decade. And I finally got sick of some stupid asshole leaving his trash all over my home. Really... go back and read some of Mr. New World Order's posts. He's a couple steps away from posting cartoon Nazi frogs on here. And frankly, I think I'd have the same reaction if some ultra-liberal drum-circle hippie wanted to tell us all about how George Bush blew up the World Trade Center. I'm just as sick of that shit. That dolt couldn't blow his own nose, let alone lie us into a war and not get caught lying. Oh, yeah... I almost forgot that he actually did lie us into a war and got caught lying.

As to your second query, I think it can best be answered with a line from the television show The Wire, when one detective says "Americans are a stupid people, by and large. We pretty much believe whatever we're told." You gotta see this, nic. It really is one of the best TV cop interrogations I've had the pleasure to watch. Although I think I posted this before sometime over the last decade. Well... watch it again, dammit!



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I guess we're in a race to see who gets banned first: the asshole who posted ignorant, hateful lies or the asshole that yelled at him about it.

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the copy machine is never wrong! LOL...

but bill, i do have to point out that PN is not a 'banning' kind of place. IIRC the last person to earn even a *temporary* ban was that spam-meister guy "neptuneholographics" from a few years back.

i suspect that if polly-ticks isn't brought up in future, this kind of thing won't really be an issue. maybe that's realistic or maybe it's not, but you guys will have to figure it out if you want to, i guess. actually it seems like coily has very little interest in debating this stuff, which is maybe what aggravates you most of all.

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I apologise if I got this whole politics argument started with my Hillary jokes in the chatbox. If I knew it would start such an argument I wouldn't have done it. I'm sorry it was a poor attempt at humor.
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I just wanted to mention that Ike is correct, Pinball Nirvana isn't a banning type of place for folks that simply express different points of view about stuff.

It is however a banning type of place for hate filled posts about other people, everyone needs to stop posting personal insults to others, it's in our rules somewhere. Politics in the US are out of control especially due to Trump's campaign, he would be banned from here just based on some of his speeches so I understand how politics get people riled up, me included.

Just some information about me and the internet, I don't care about twitter (been there once by accident), Facebook or any other social media site except for Youtube. Family and friends often have to tell me what's going on in real life gatherings, (found out during Easter that my youngest niece is pregnant, most everyone else knew for months due to social media) saw a stupid video on the network news of people standing still and taking selfies and asked a friend wtf are they doing, he explained it was some kind of fad and I then asked why they are doing it because standing still doesn't look fun to me....

Perhaps some of the above mentioned behavior is now considered normal but if it is, I don't want to be involved.
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hey, i got it: new stipulation for joining PN-- acceptance of the fact that everyone else here is plumb loco. (here's the pen and here's the form, weirdos!)

the real problem is that -some- assholes like bill like CERTAIN pinball machines, but -other- assholes like keith like OTHER MACHINES.

end of the day...? you BOTH should be totally ashamed of yourselves for not considering Jurassic Park by Data East the single greatest pinball machine ever.

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It saddens me that some people are totally dominated and manipulated by the Main Scheme Media. Never watch commercial network "News". Unless you want a good laugh or have your head screwed on backwards. Please watch C-SPAN for raw unfiltered information. Then form your opinions from seeing things first hand. Without twist, spin or commercial/political interest effecting what you absorb. I started relying on non-commercial C-SPAN over 35 years ago and soon realized how sick and twisted the Media is. I learned Commercial Television is our worst enemy. I would watch a hearing, speech, The Congress and Senate or other event. Then I would watch commercial TV and see the biggest pack of lies and manipulations on the planet. It is fucking terrifying. Today and for a year now it is the worst it has ever been since I started reading news papers in 1965. When I speak of C-Span I am not referring to the controllers of Washington Journal or other productions. I go there online, on the TV channels for C-SPAN1, C-SPAN2, C-SPAN3 or listen to C-SPAN radio for the real live events. Live or archived. So I can experiance them as they really are. FOR MY SELF . I did this all last year. Then witnessed the most ridiculous commercial coverage of an election...EVER

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I wanted credit for that! Two days before the election I posted about the Clinton's moving $1.8 Billion to Qatar in the chat-box...
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The correctional institute for women in Clinton NJ and the HFC bucket of fried chicken jokes.
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that makes sense, but i doubt many people have the time to devote to watching raw coverage of congressional proceedings to get the gist of things, especially since it's still only a small fraction of world events that are unfolding.

also, just because you're watching something live still doesn't mean you're not immediately introducing your own biases and interpretations in to the experience. we're all hard-wired to confirm what we already believe, after all.

my approach is more or less-- try to take in the widest reasonable gamut of news sources so as to compare and contrast stories and events. always look for falsifiability, which means seeking out logic and data which could punch holes in your own theories. understanding news should consistently be hard work if you're doing it right.

also, every news source naturally carries bias, first and foremost being how to make a profit from the presentation of said news. after that, probably the next-most important factor is the ideology of the outlet. i think a healthy sign is when the writer / outlet openly shares their particular bias so the consumer can decode the story most accurately.

nothing wrong with fringe news or pop news, but most of that stuff is in that position for a reason, i.e. it's heavily-biased rubbish catering to extremists and/or the feeble-minded. like it or not, mainstream news does include the best general analysis and challenges to the consumer. just because interpreting it is time-consuming and difficult doesn't mean it's crap. that's the way it should be given the complicated world we live in today.

then when you add feedback from experts and people in general making well-reasoned arguments, it really helps get a more nuanced perspective on things. beyond reading books like "game change" and so forth, reddit in particular has been a great source of well-articulated, dissenting opinions for me. there's nothing quite like it online that i know of. this is sort of like the famous "hive mind" idea that has a record of consistently accurate predictions. makes sense, right? multiple heads are better than one...
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Is this like pole dancing?


Meh..Merry Can politics, the greatest artificial belief system....the health of the what?

A. Economy...the what?
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I just discovered this topic, and haven't read it all yet, but hopefully I won't be perceived as a marooned ignopotamus or whatever...

In 1980 I got a call from my producer / bandleader employer, who had been called by Pat Paulsen's people; seems Paulsen had arrived for an appearance at the Los Angeles Bonaventure Hotel without one of his props - an acoustic guitar.

"Hey, how would you like to make (amount forgotten, but I'm sure it covered my gas and time)?" to which I answered, 'Why not?' And so, I made the 15-20 minute drive, provided my Hohner Contessa* for about a half-hour, and returned home.

One can never predict how or when that brush with greatness will manifest...

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Are you referring to your "As you know, I'm a big fan of the govt" thread from Feb, 1915? I just searched it up and went through it; there were neither mention of a book, nor any replies from me. I remember the thread, but must have felt I had nothing to add---or lampoon effectively...
(something about that sentence feels wrong, but I'm too lazy to try and correct it)

Or, maybe the book was discussed in sleepy's "How Do You Like Petula Clark, and other Ladies Who Sing?" thread?

EDIT: Never mind. in StevOz' "Like anime, Like basketball" thread, post #11, you mention having gotten a paperback copy of "Dangerously Funny", so that, at least, is solved.
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wow, plaudits on all that research(!)

but, okay... i was just curious if you had anything particular to add about the smothers. i was just a small sprat when their show originally ran, and hadn't even made it to the states yet. (whoa, i just realised the country and state flags aren't here any longer)

ANYway, i had no idea hohner made guitars. have you been a professional musician most of your life? i'm still rather salty about not being able to play guitar anymore (joint pain issues).
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... i was just curious if you had anything particular to add about the smothers....have you been a professional musician most of your life?
After forming a surf band and playing frat parties the last two years of high school ('63-4), I joined one of my sister's babysitting employers and worked in the lounge of a bowling alley at age eighteen. (Because there was a restaurant, I was allowed to be under 21 as long as I took my breaks out in the all-ages area) The nineteenth-b-day-party hangover hadn't cleared when I got drafted and spent two years in the Army, Mar 1 '66 - Feb 28 '68. When I got back, all of my musician pals had turned either cowboy or hippie, and except for the drugs aspect, (just booze for me, thanks!) I chose the latter. Sang a lot of Steppenwolf, Deep Purple and Creedence Clearwater.....

Anyway, I was working 4, 5, or 6 nights a week during most of the Smothers' TV run, and remember very little of it. Plus, I was so intent on ignoring politics that I may not have appreciated what they were putting out.

To stretch the 'most of your life' subtopic; in late '68, I hooked back up with the guys from my pre-military days as I was also listening to every note of Blood, Sweat and Tears, Chicago, Electric Flag, etc, (Ike, you recall my interest in horns, right? I think you might still be nauseous from my postings a while back ) After a while, club gigs got sparse and I signed up with a call service at the musicians' union and wound up working New Year's Eve 1970 with the guy who later became my afore-mentioned producer / bandleader employer.

Mixed a few short club gigs with occasional 'casuals', as they're called, for about three years, then left casuals for a solid three more years of club gigs before tiring of the poor rehearsal discipline exhibited by potential new bandmates---and rejoined my producer / bandleader employer until the biz and I tired of each other,,,,,seventeen years later (July '93).


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I'm still rather salty about not being able to play guitar anymore (joint pain issues).
I know the feeling...but not from joint problems; sometime around '88 - '90 or so, I noticed that my playing had hit a wall and no matter how much I practiced, I was stagnating (getting bored hearing myself) Buying a new Charvel ST Custom in '91 didn't help, and when the boss cut too many corners and lost a lot of longtime repeat customers (and fell behind with payroll) two years later, I decided to hang up the twang thang and turn my automotive repair hobby into a freelance occupation.

In Sept '98 I had a mild stroke; the MRI showed not only the main lesion, but a half-dpzen other smaller ones. I asked how old they were, and the neurologist said there was no way to tell.

A little late in the game, but I think I know why I hit that wall...

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I had no idea hohner made guitars.
I told myself the same thing in July of '77 when I saw it in the local music store...but it was cute, playable, had good tonation and a pickup
(low-gain, but better than nothing). $140 later I had something with which I could accompany the violin/s, accordian, acoustic bass and/or piano as we serenaded the rich folks while they ate or sucked down cocktails...

I read the Wikipedia article on Hohner; outside of the Clavinet, I didn't know they made keyboards, nor did I ever think about how MANY types of harmonica there might be...

So, have I been a musician most of my life?

I was going to joke, "Not yet", but since I've already quit...Yes.
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thanks for that stroll down memory lane, sir!

pretty casual way to mention not becoming a smudge in a vietnam jungle, too. oO

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A little late in the game, but I think I know why I hit that wall...
wow... that's pretty sobering. i hadn't considered that scenerio before, but i suppose it's not uncommon with creative types or people actively trying to develop their skillsets in life.
and i'm at risk for that kind of thing myself, so... good reminder to keep eating my garlic, cayenne and statins.

hey, check out this interesting building a just came across online:
https://i.redd.it/z91f5dut311z.jpg
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pretty casual way to mention not becoming a smudge in a vietnam jungle, too.
Well, I had my chance at that, too; (Dec 10, '67) crawling toward the pajama-clad bastards, I caught an AK-47 slug under my left collarbone that went south, through lung, diaphram (breathing was in shallow gulps from that point), stomach and spleen (which was removed and discarded) before ending up in some unspecified region of intestine. It was determined that I would not recover sufficiently for return to duty before my ETS, so after about two weeks, I and a few other lucky souls spent Xmas being flown to Manila and Guam on the way to Letterman Hospital in San Francisco.

So, I didn't become a smudge, but I left a few...

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... good reminder to keep eating my garlic, cayenne and statins.
Garlic, yeah...but Cayenne - isn't that the stuff that peels all of your eyeball paint? And statins, I've heard of but am not familiar with. Garlic is in the food group, PIZZA, which I enjoy regularly.....I remember you guys discussing nutrients, vitamins, oxidants, etc., and Arne blasted storebought pizza's use of whatever was used to make 'sausage'...true, I would like to taste some beef, but until then...

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hey, check out this interesting building a just came across online:
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What - no caption or description? Is that a people-sized structure, or a spider's view inside a Hohner Contessa?

Hey---we haven't shared a beer in quite a while. so
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after sitting through last night's finals game (NBA) i'm a little too depressed to talk about viet nam just now, but... thanks for sharing, mate. dang.

as for the interior of yon hohner, i think the spider's view has it!

back in philly, avenue of the arts-- we do have a giant cello-shaped building called the jimmy kimmel center. it's rather airy.

...

also, i think part of my reason for rambling on in this thread and trying to seek a happy place is completely shot at this point-- apparently trump just pulled the USA out of the global climate accord.

yes, it's officially time to apply duct tape to my mouth, and please let's never talk about politics again.
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I have a lot of hobbies like pinball and playing harmonica because when I do them, I'm focused on them and don't think about anything else, like problems and politics.

I also have mostly been avoiding news and politics and gossip, only visiting websites that don't focus on those things. I spend a lot of time reading fiction and watching movies, playing music, creating art. And life is good... when you don't think about Trump, he (and anyone else you never think about) doesn't exist in your life.

You could say that I'm being ignorant of very important things that are shaping the world, not taking a stand for anything and being a lazy non-caring American.

Oh well, I'm gonna go write a poem about blue skies, or maybe about things burning to the ground. It's nice having a choice.

I'll Haiku it:

"Poems of blue skies
or things burning to the ground
The choice is all mine"

(I'm really just killing time at work right now, waiting for lunch)

"When will lunch be here
Hopefully it won't be long
I sure am hungry"
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