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Pinball Nirvana once had almost as much conversation about classic rock music as pinball. So if any of you old rock n' rollers (like me) are still out there, I thought you might find this documentary interesting. Laurel Canyon was just a couple of miles, and a whole other world, from where Arne lived. He would have approved.

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I think most of the conversation on that the last 5-10 years was between Arne and Bill, so that's pretty much how that worked. I would occasionally join in, but my music interests had already changed a lot by that point, and there wasn't much interest in stuff I now listen to, like world folk, indy pop, lounge-ambient, old-timey / Appalachian, renaissance / medieval, etc.

Anyway yeah, Bill and Gregg would probably be happy to talk about this stuff, if they happened by at the right time.

In terms of classic rock, I'd be mostly interested in talking about singing technique, since I've been regularly doing karaoke at the local bar / restaurant.

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I love world folk and indie pop too. Arne introduced me to the Hawaiian duo Hapa, and I really enjoy them. I love Ladysmith Black Mambazo from South Africa. Amanda Martinez is great, she's from Canada but she blends her Mexican/South African roots to make some interesting music. R Carlos Nakai is a Navajo/Ute musician who is really good if you enjoy Native American music.

Which world music artists do you enjoy Nic?
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Thanks! I'll check that stuff out.

For world folk, I tend to be mindful of genres, not individual artists. Stuff like Andean Huayno, traditional Greek, the Caribbean's multiple genres, Gypsy, Irish / Celtic (and modern arrangements, such as by The Pogues), African, and Indian. Or I'll just hit the Shoutcast network and randomly cruise world folk streamers, like Rumanian, Russian, Belgian, etc.

One of those situations where I'm so easily pleased that I don't mind being sloppy / Catholic in my tastes. :P

OTOH, Indy Pop is a genre where I'm building a much more tightly controlled playlist. I could share that if that's of interest.

Btw, almost ten years ago I made a slideshow / video of one of Arne's favorite Hapa songs that he turned me on to. It's coming up on two million views now, so I'm pleased that lots of people have enjoyed it.

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Arne really was the driving force in so many of the musical discussions here... oftentimes in the movie discussions, as well. I could always join in because I was so steeped in classic rock for so long, but my current interests have moved beyond that. A huge part of what I listen to now is soul music. I'm especially fond of the subgenre known as Northern Soul. It seems that, for decades, residents of Northern England have been unearthing some fantastic American soul records from the '60s and '70s that we were never smart enough to listen to ourselves. Like this song. It's a shame Lou Pride didn't have the Motown Machine working behind him. This song deserves to be a timeless classic like "Papa Was a Rolling Stone."


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Cool beans. I think I've heard that song before. Maybe in a TV show or movie.
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I enjoyed that, Bill! I'm always open to different musical genres. I listen to Frankie Beverly sometimes. I think he's considered Northern Soul. (?) Do you have anymore recommendations.
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Oooh, Frankie Beverly and Maze! I used to dig listening to them back in the day!
A few years back, I caught an English movie called Northern Soul, a nifty little coming-of-age movie about two teens raised in 1970s Northern England, but it was the soundtrack that really got me going. That's where I discovered that Lou Pride song. I'm going to see if I can attach the whole soundtrack here it. Well, it looks like the PN attachments page doesn't want to play nice, so let's try it this way: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Ut...YTtPIpG3zoLjAK Click on the link, hit download, open the rar file and shake your rump to the funk!

Many moons ago, Ike introduced me to Soma.FM, a very eclectic collection of commercial-free internet stations and that's where I found my all-time favorite internet radio station called 7-Inch Soul, all of it music recorded from the original 45s and all of it truly groovy. There's a lot of fine stations there, like Underground '80s, when I feel the urge to relive my college-radio days, Illinois Street Lounge for when it's Mad Men martini hour and, if I feel the rare urge to hear what kind of music the kids are making today, there's Indie Pop Rocks and its hillbilly cousin Boot Liquor, for some great alt-country and Americana tunes.

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...I love Ladysmith Black Mambazo from South Africa. Amanda Martinez is great, she's from Canada but she blends her Mexican/South African roots to make some interesting music. R Carlos Nakai is a Navajo/Ute musician who is really good if you enjoy Native American music.
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- LBM is a band Paul Simon first introduced me to back in the 80's, college years! Always loved their stuff, altho in truth I haven't heard them in a while.

- Amanda Martinez seemed nice from the handful of songs I checked out, altho in general I prefer more traditional stuff than the modern, crowd-friendly arrangements. I want to hear the soul of the olde culture, I guess you could say. Speaking as a pretentious twit, of course.

- R Carlos Nakai seems nice and peaceful from what I'm hearing. I can see myself meditating to this or unwinding in a hot oatmeal bath.

Warning warning, Nic ramblation alert: Carlos' stuff in particular also reminds me-- one thing I think I've underestimated in the past is how useful complementary / synchronous music can be for wonderfully augmenting sports, meditation and certain other tasks, such as studying. A lot of the time I find non-vocal music to work best, such that the mind gets more freed up to concentrate on immediate tasks, yet there's a useful background effect going on with the instrumental, leading to certain brain regions getting stimulated, so to speak.


Btw: SomaFM, whoa... hey Bill, I'm glad you found some stuff you liked... completely unlike whatever I might have recommended at the time! Also a nice reminder to keep checking out their diverse playlists, because they've probably doubled or tripled across the years, amirite?
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As Ike's tastes are catholic, mine are pretty damn parochial! My music library rarely strays outside the borders of America, with a healthy dose of rockin' Brits. I guess that makes my tastes pretty Anglo-Saxon, while ranging pretty far and wide within those borders: jazz, country, '50s R&B, '80s Alternative Rock, a very, very heavy dose of everything '70s... grandpa even has a couple of rap songs stuck in there. My library is currently sitting at 49 days' worth of music, so if I'm ever stuck on an Arc for 40 days and nights of flooding, I'll have some bitchin' tunes for my animal passengers!
I do have a few exceptions in my "Made In America" library. I've got a pretty hefty dose of Django Reinhardt, because nobody plays guitar like Django!



I also have a small collection of classic Tejano music, but what it lacks in quantity it makes up for in quality. On the plus side, thanks to my two years of high school Spanish, I understand about every fifth word!



I'm pretty fond of background music when I'm reading and, for that, I turn to my guiltiest of guilty pleasures, "beautiful music" aka "elevator music!" I love me a good beautiful music station! My current favorite is Beautiful Music 101, because they play the "beautiful" versions of the music I grew up with; Elton John, The Beatles, they even break into the MTV years with Dexy's Midnight Runners' "Come On, Eileen" and I swear I heard them play a "beautiful music" version of "The Devil Went Down to Georgia!"

Yeah, Soma.FM has grown quite a bit over the years. They're my favorite spot to hit at Xmas time, because they host some fantastic soul and lounge Xmas music stations.

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Dang... I'm interested in hearing that Tejano collection, but it keeps saying "video unavailable." A ripping attempt with 3rd party site also failed.

Btw I'd love to hear the muzak version of "Come on, Eileen." I searched around a bit, but couldn't find it. Interestingly, I see Dexys reformed in 2003 and released two more albums the last few years.

Soma.FM really has been great for building my Xmas song collection. I peeked at my "Merry Mixmas" folder just now and it's up to 54 songs, with more waiting to be ripped later.

It's really kind of amazing how many neat Xmas songs exist if you only take a look. Not just stuff you'll find in their streams, but also many others, like this little XTC gem:


Soma-FM also has a pretty interesting, one might say "ominous," licensing fees situation going on. Seems like they've gotten pinched so thin through the years that they've had to give up playing a number of classics that used to be in heavy rotation, and are instead forced to look for quality content in other places. That's not necessarily bad in terms of forcing them to stay creative, but it also seems to imply that if one of their featured songs / bands becomes more popular outside the site, there's a distinct chance that it'll have to vanish from the playlists due to the jump in licensing costs.

That Rusty guy's done some yeoman's work, but I do kind of keep expecting the site to suddenly disappear.
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One Tejano Classics... commmminnng up! https://drive.google.com/open?id=1SS...EBPg2MuIHXcLTk

Ah, good ol' XTC! The wife is a huge XTC nerd. And I thought I had listened to them a lot before I met her!

I've gotten a few donation-begs from Soma in the past. Given what those emails said, I am also very surprised they manage to stay on the air. But I actually did my part. Given how much I really dig that 7-inch Soul station, I sent them some cash. It's the first time I've ever donated money to an internet-radio station. I'm sure that $10 I sent them last year is the only reason they're still broadcasting!

Given your "catholic" tastes, Ike, I thought you might appreciate this little gem. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gy...MjB9JMKOEV3A8h This is a collection of Asian groups rocking and rolling in 1960s Singapore and, let me tell you, they do a fine job! Even on the occasion or two they don't handle the English language too well. But, hey, props to them! I can't even imagine trying to speak an Oriental language, let alone sing something! What's most amazing is how well these folks were schooling the United States on their own rock'n'roll invention at the same time we were over there killing them as fast as we could. Like this group, Katherine & The Firebyrds. They were from Cambodia and I have to wonder if any of them are still alive. If they managed to survive Nixon bombing the shit out of them, I doubt they were as lucky when Pol-Pot was murdering his citizens by the millions. I discovered that this song is a cover of an obscure number by country artist Brenda Lee (of "Rocking Around the Xmas Tree" fame and here we are back at Xmas music again!). This version is absolutely haunting, with its Siren-guitar pulling its listener right into the rocky shore. Listening to it now, it's got a very strong "House of the Rising Sun" by The Animals vibe.


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Thank you!

Hey, this Tex-Mex, Tejano music is pretty interesting.

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Europeans from Germany (first during Spanish time and 1830s), Poland, and what is now the Czech Republic migrated to Texas and Mexico, bringing with them their style of music and dance. They brought with them the waltz, polkas, and other popular forms. However, it was not until the Mexican Revolution (19101917) that many of these Europeans were forced to flee Mexico and into South Texas, where their musical influence was to have a major impact on Tejanos. --WP
The Euro influences are immediately obvious to me now, listening to this stuff. Wow. I mean, I've heard it in the past, but for some reason the obvious associations never really occurred to me. Polka... yeah, how 'bout that?

Another thing I like about this stuff is that the castellano is so basic. A nice way for me to work on my comprehension, since I left my mother country at such a young age, never coming close to finishing my skills.

And... stoopid bluetooth earbuds run out of juice, right on cue.

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Btw, there's a "Name that Tune" app I sometimes play while killing time, when there's wifi nearby. It's this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....quiz&hl=en_US

It's not bad, not great. Disregarding the contemporary crap, it has some fun music categories, like:

Rock / 60's / 70's / 80's / Musicals / Alternative / Gospel

So far I haven't really found a better one for Android. The best one I ever played was "Name that Tune" for MAME, which was last updated in... early 1986. Hehe.
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Bill - I checked out Soma.FM. There are a lot of interesting stations. I was drawn to the 70's Left Coast station for memories of high school and college. I love the ambient music stations for when I'm reading, I find if there are lyrics involved I get distracted too easily. Django Reinhardt is also a favorite of mine, along with Stefan Grappelli. Love that "gypsy swing."

Nic - There is something primal about roots music that seems to immediately soothe the soul. For me this is true whether it is a Native American flute, a Peruvian charango, or a Celtic bagpipe. My background is in anthropology, and I've always been fascinated by the theory of "genetic memory." Basically, that common experiences of a species become incorporated into the genetic code. Ancestral music could potentially be part of our genetic makeup.
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