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Old 04-19-2009, 09:25 PM
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yes, when i first saw that sig i thought "hopefully some users at pinball nirvana will notice the signature, click on it, and be led to... pinball nirvana."

it's the kind of mind game that can tie some people up in knots. :P
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Bobs signature links to PN too. The old homepage to be precise.

IMO this is simply unheard of,...i think i will head right over to the This-Is-An-Outrage-Forum and start a Bobs-Signature-Makes-Me-Feel-Uncomfortable-And-Not-Welcome-Anymore thread.

That ought to teach him to think twice before displaying such rude and offending content in his signature for everyone to see,...

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A staffers signature has always to be considered as official.
No it does not
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If he was being paid for moderating PN, then it may be different, but as it stands, nobody has control over what his signature is

The only 'Official' words from PN are those that come from Jon
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I changed it so that easily-offended ever whining people like you have one reason less to 'feel uncomfortable'.
And you did it with such grace! You'll make a wonderful moderator! Or "administrator". Or "jackass."

To coin a phrase from "Anchorman": "Stay classy, Germany!"
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I'll have to check out that .org place.
I think you'd like parts of it. There's a lot of table-building workshops going on there that could benefit from your knowledge... and I don't know where you are on VP 9, but I hope you learn it,then come back here and explain to me how to make it work... but it's just not the warm, fuzzy PN vibe. As an example, I never post over there without my pants on, as I'm doing now.
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...i think i will head right over to the This-Is-An-Outrage-Forum and ...

Just click the link in my sig to get to This-Is-An-Outrage-Forum

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Nice thread and keep up the good work, it is appreciated.... Seriously.

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You know.... If I was to post this many responses in a row at VPF.Org, they would all be thrown together in one post. Cheap bastards.


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You know.... If I was to post this many responses in a row at VPF.Org, they would all be thrown together in one post. Cheap bastards.


or you could use the tii / faralos method and post a new thread every time you had a stray thought. D:
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And you did it with such grace!
My mother always told me "Boy, if you do something make sure you do it with grace!". To be honest i had a hard time figuring out how to apply that to replacing one image with an identical one with a different phrase, but luckily adding the '-grace' parameter to the copy command once again saved the day.

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You'll make a wonderful moderator! Or "administrator". Or "jackass."
Oooh. An attack on my competence. Ouchy.

Now what? Am i supposed to get angry? Want me to call you names in return? Well, whatever it is im afraid its not going to happen because unlike certain other people i can control myself when i want to. And unlike certain other people i do realize that the old games that still seem to be the main attraction to people like yourself have never done anything for anyone except generating antipathy and dislike amongst the ones involved. So go ahead, call me jackass, idiot, asshole, whatever your intellect allows you to come up with. If you think this will make you look smart or cool or do any good, by all means be my guest. But whatever you do dont expect me to loose any sleep over it because i will not be baited into any lame flamefests. If you want that, please try somewhere else,...
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I'd say it's grade B, but it still stinks.

I think Phoenixx would actually feel more comfortable over at the Org, they are much more professional and mature there. You know, the type of guys that really wanted to go to the arcades, but their mother's wouldn't take them.


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No no no, not so fast. You still didnt answer my question.

You said "A staffers signature has always to be considered as official." and i want to know who said that. I want to know exactly which rulebook you have taken this claim from.
Too fast? I'm behind and still have to read the previous posts. I already have noticed yet you've edited one of your posts (the one after my 'Congratulation' reply). To make me look/sound dumb? No matter, I never claimed not to be. And I already don't remember the original content.

To answer your necessitative question:

Rulebook? Ok, I know what you mean, but I guess (not sure), you won't find anything like that. It's a generally accepted rule in many different communities, i. e. in politics, sports, companies, that officials have to highlight any of their private (not official) views, when they comment on something official in public. Just carry that over to forums. The original idea of a sinature was to make a post official and to notify the recipient of the identity and the contact data of the sender. It was another purpose than it's used in forums today.

Maybe one can't carry that over to forums, but that's my understanding of it. I can be wrong, but I'm rather happy than always right anyway.
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Oh really. Is that a fact. And exactly who has established this mighty rule? Where can i read it up that everything a member with moderator status says in their signature is automatically to be taken as 'official'?

You know what i think? I think this is bullshit and that you are outright looking for something to whine about because you want to be miserable. Otherwise you would not post your 'I am Leaving' threads every two months and quite certainly would you not constantly take something insignificant like one members signature as a reason to make a big theater about absolutely nothing,...


I changed it so that easily-offended ever whining people like you have one reason less to 'feel uncomfortable'. But apparently thats no good either since one who wants to find something to whine about obviously just makes something up if all else fails. Case in point: Now that you cant whine about the old sign anymore you promptly start to whine about the new one and that i have changed it. I mean, hello? Personally i find that quite impertinent, and once again i cant shake the feeling that certain people are really only happy when i pack my bags leave for good. Every little shit i do, no matter how insignificant, seems to be a giant world-changing event to them, and quite frankly im sick and tired of having to deal with the same kind of crap day in and day out,...
Thanks for changing your signature. It's much better now!

Unbelieveable assumptions on your side! I don't comment.
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Even if this wasn't directed to me, nice joke!
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This will be my last response to you.

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I already have noticed yet you've edited one of your posts (the one after my 'Congratulation' reply). To make me look/sound dumb?
Of course. Everything - absolutely everything i do is only to harm you in the worst possible way. When i write something into my signature it is to make you feel 'uncomfortable'. When i edit my posts it is to make you look stupid. When i go and buy a bread i do it only so that you wont be able to buy that bread. And when i go crapping i do it only because i hope that the smell will somehow reach your livingroom. Like i said, everything i do is to harm you. Thats the only reason why i signed up here and my sole reason for living.

On a more serious note; i think you have a serious mental problem. Since you come up with such crap on a regular basis i recommend visiting a psychiatrist asap.

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Rulebook? Ok, I know what you mean, but I guess (not sure), you won't find anything like that.
So what youre trying to say is that you pulled it out of your ass and stated it as an undeniable fact.

Thanks, thats all i wanted to hear.

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It's a generally accepted rule in many different communities, i. e. in politics, sports, companies, that officials have to highlight any of their private (not official) views, when they comment on something official in public.
Really. And exactly what has that got to do with my signature? Exactly where did i 'comment on something official in public'? Can you please point me to the statement in question? All i remember is putting a sign in my sig that said "Pinball Nirvana - We Are An Original", which means you are talking complete rubbish, as always.

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Unbelieveable assumptions on your side! I don't comment.
Yeah, its an outrage. Unbelievable how i could come to such a conclusion.

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As a staffer you have to serve all members!
I assume that this line comes straight from the same rulebook as the claim that everything that i write into my signature is to be seen as official. Unfortunately it is just as false, since i dont serve anyone. I am here to add new features to the forum and perform administrative tasks and that is between me and Jon. You as the users may use the new features and thats it. If you dont like them dont use them and if you dont like this place dont visit it. Its that simple really, i too dont go where i dont want to be.

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I'm not sure, but I guess I feel happy now. PN is great!
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Last response?

However, actually I don't have anything to add, as you deny to talk seriously and I don't understand, why you make such a drama of an originally seriously meant concern.

Yes, I consider the topic as closed. I didn't quote your previous reply, so you can edit it by your needs.

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So the topic is not closed and the snide remarks and insults go on.

O.K., in that case you leave me no choice.


Official Announcement:

1.) If the flaming doesnt stop immediately i will close this thread according to Forum Rule 1 Paragraph 2 because its sole purpose is quite obviously to throw dirt in my face. The thread starter has had the chance to state his concerns, they have been answered, and that should be good enough. Everything beyond that will and has lead to nothing but anger and we dont need that. We had enough of that crap at VPForums.

2.) Nobody wants to do anyone any harm, nobody has a problem with anyones being here. This place is a place where everyone is welcome and everyone can have their own opinion too. So for Gods sake please stop the whining about nothing and try to use your energy to do something productive. This is what makes this place more enjoyable for everyone, flaming around wont do any good for anyone.

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So the topic is not closed and the snide remarks and insults go on.

O.K., in that case you leave me no choice.


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1.) If the flaming doesnt stop immediately i will close this thread according to Forum Rule 1 Paragraph 2 because its sole purpose is quite obviously to throw dirt in my face. The thread starter has had the chance to state his concerns, they have been answered, and that should be good enough. Everything beyond that will and has lead to nothing but anger and we dont need that. We had enough of that crap at VPForums.

2.) Nobody wants to do anyone any harm, nobody has a problem with anyones being here. This place is a place where everyone is welcome and everyone can have their own opinion too. So for Gods sake please stop the whining about nothing and try to use your energy to do something productive. This is what makes this place more enjoyable for everyone, flaming around wont do any good for anyone.

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Old Announcement!!!!!!!!!!!

We don't close flaming threads here.....

We create flaming threads here.....

Sheesh!

Please read the manual.
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We don't close flaming threads here.....

We create flaming threads here.....
Well, if that is what the users here really want then PN might not be the right place for me either. I just cant see myself staying in a community where the main thing is to have bitchfests with each other, if i wanted that i would go signing up at flamefest.com where the quality of the bitching would most certainly be a lot better than there.

On the positive side; seeing how much heart and soul Jon puts into this place i dont think he likes that crap either and that he would also rather see this place become a really cool site for true pinball fans. Relaxed and unconstrained of course, but without the old crap that has created so much bad blood between so many people in the past. And as long as im convinced of that i will do my best to make this site become such a place. If that means occasionally closing a thread where all questions have been answered and all that remains is personal flaming then i consider that to be a necessity that comes with the territory. After all its not like the people cant say what they think or even release some steam if necessary, PN has never been a dictatorship. But when enough is enough then somebody has to call the shots and if that has to be me then so be it. Better than letting it go on and on and on and on,...
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Phoenixx, don't be an ass. You can't control yourself, by controlling others.

If you want peace and quiet, then don't read or post in hostile or controversial threads..... Do what you said about trying to be helpful on the forums, but don't start policing the place. we don't need 2 asinine pinball forums.
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