Shockman vs VPF (Thread Not Started By Shockman)

[Shockman]

[TheManFromPOST]

Shockman, ask your self a question
Since the Shockman, Leo Wanker, Mr Staypuft incident, how many times has it been brought up?
How many threads have been made or high jacked in your ‘quest’ for ‘justice’?
How many PMs sent?
How many hours have 3rd parties had to devote to trying to placate you?

HOW MUCH TIME HAS BEEN WASTED BY EVERY ONE OVER THREE FUCKING WORDS??

Do you think that your refusal to overcome your vendetta has upset others?
Do you think that your refusal to understand has caused some sleepless nights?

You may be in pain Shockman, but you have caused others ten times more pain

[StevOz]

You are not silenced Shockman though this is where all such posts will now be merged, do not post such elsewhere.

No I do not believe in lifetime bans, though the decision is not mine to make.

[Shockman]

You keep bringing up three words Peter, I have asked before, I don't know what you are talking about, what three words?

I did not bring up the past with this latest issue Peter, you did. My problem was when my reply to a post wast turned into a thread starter, like StevOz was kind enough to just do. There is no such rule here that would allow this to stand, or maybe there is, I'll have to ask Jon.

It is now clear. My 6 months was not a probation, it was a term limit. So this was done because of what happened in the past. I paid the price for calling that staff on that injustice, as you like to call it. The deal was that neither of us bring that up. not that I could not defend myself if it was brought up. I don't know why you are yelling at me about that, I thought you wanted to move past that, to get over it? I did, and I was. I lasted the 6 months, and I mentioned NOTHING about the last staff, but what you and nic. was doing. You don't have a right to treat me like this. I treated you guys very well. I said stuff like the ...dud thing was stupid, do you dissagree with that? I got upset about my post being hijacked and perverted into something else, like 'Oz did with my prayer. What else?, What peroid?

If you can't accept that the past stuff happened, and move on, and not let me move past it then you should not be an admin. there.

Why do you insist that I should not be a member of VPF ever again as long as my life may be? Don't you think that that rings of evil? I know these people Peter, I know that they were forgetting about it, accepting me whether they thought I was right or not. I think that from the time that you and nic. started to the day my post was hijacked, that things could just not go much better. It was fun, for a change. You have got to believe me, because you know in your heart that it is true.

[TheManFromPOST]

Originally Posted by Shockman

So this was done because of what happened in the past. I paid the price for calling that staff on that injustice, as you like to call it. The deal was that neither of us bring that up. not that I could not defend myself if it was brought up. I don't know why you are yelling at me about that, I thought you wanted to move past that, to get over it? I did, and I was. I lasted the 6 months, and I mentioned NOTHING about the last staff, but what you and nic. was doing. You don't have a right to treat me like this. I treated you guys very well. I said stuff like the ...dud thing was stupid, do you dissagree with that? I got upset about my post being hijacked and perverted into something else, like 'Oz did with my prayer. What else?, What peroid?

What a load of crap

Everytime a staff member started a therad in the 'Messages to staff' section, outlining new ideas, thing we were going to try to achieve, trying to breath a little fresh air into the forum, up would pop Shockman 'Delete the old D/As','Investigate the crimes against my person','If you do not know VPF history, than you are not fit to be Admins'

Here we (the staff) were trying to look towards the future, and there was Shockman, trying to drag everyone to the past


Go back to the original 'agreement'

Shockman,
Lio has passed on your request for your account to be re-opened.
And I shall be happy to welcome you back.

I know you have had issues with the staff and other members, I am not sure of the details, and, to be honest, I don’t care.

You are on 6 months probation, if you break the guidelines on VPforum membership, you will be out without warning.
By using your account, you agree to my offer.

Your account is now open.

Now, let’s play pinball

TheManFromPOST

Here I was trying to clean the slate, make a new start
I showed you some goodwill there Shockman, I showed some generosity
and what did i get?

I don't accept any probation period, so you might take that as I don't accept your offer. So by using my account, I am using my account, period.

A big FUCK YOU, that is what I got
If I had been wiser, I should have left you banned then and there

Even when I told you about starting an alt account, you replied

Originally Posted by Shockman

I'll be Shockey! Thanks Peter. Don't worry about old issues, there is plenty of new ones.

Which to me sounds like all you wanted to do was to cause more trouble

[tiltjlp]

Too bad there isn't an Ignore Feature for this site, I'd love to use it.

[TheManFromPOST]

Ah tilty
saw a flipperless on e-bay this week, even in my area for an easy pick up
only problem was it was missing the whole backbox (yes it was meant to have one )

[kristian]

Shocky just wants attention. I think deep down he's a good guy... something happened to him... in his personal life... what makes him act like he does. He was a good, helpful guy a few years ago....and never caused any trouble.

Personally I don't understand why a forum......or Internet in general can be so important to someone.... he must hang around in these forums at least 10 hours every day......he's obsessed.

In Shocky's case....I don't see a solution.....except ignore.

[tiltjlp]

Originally Posted by TheManFromPOST

Ah tilty
saw a flipperless on e-bay this week, even in my area for an easy pick up
only problem was it was missing the whole backbox (yes it was meant to have one )

Now if it had had the backbox, and had been in fairly decent shape, would you have bought it? From the sounds of your collection, I figured you had the attitude that "real men don't do flipperless" or something like that. I have a collection of two myself. One is a modern bagatelle, all wood, but the other one is a T Cohn Miniature Bagatelle from the 1930s. There have been several otherT Cohn bagatelles on eBay, and if my finances weren't so strapped, I would have bid on them. Don't have enough room in my apartment for anything bigger than those hand held games.

[Shockman]

My suggestions did include erasing D/As, that's true. There are many more that should have not happened than mine.
I've said many times that you should not have unbanned me, if your probation was not a joke. I said it at the time, and I say it now.

I agree with every point you made though Peter. I just think it is no reason to ban me for life. You know I am a hard working person that does not start fights with anyone.You know I am a good person that would do anything in my power to help anyone that is not trying to destroy me.

Thank you, for the further discussion.

[Shockman]

Thanks to you too kristian. Comming from you, that should help alot

[Shockman]

Hey Jon,
Can I be a staffer here? Admin. or Super Admin?
I would like to fix this thread to look like it was started by the person that started it. The rest of the content is fine. but there is just no rule that would support this.

I would not ban anyone, ever, for anything.

[StevOz]

Originally Posted by Shockman

Hey Jon,
Can I be a staffer here? Admin. or Super Admin?
I would like to fix this thread to look like it was started by the person that started it. The rest of the content is fine. but there is just no rule that would support this.

I would not ban anyone, ever, for anything.

Not going to happen Shockman, you read the announcement yet still continued to post about your dispute in the general forums, this is the result.

[da_prez]

whatta trip .... all these shockman vs VPF threads are gonna end up in the junkyard ....

who'da thunk it ??

[davidsss]

Hey TMFP, are you talking about The Favorit on EBay Aus? Doesn't look too bad but no backboard was a pain. I think he was asking a bit much which is reflected in the fact he got no bids. I was hoping for a better pic than provided, then maybe a VP version could be made.

DS

PS: I also thought it was time we hijacked a "Let's whinge about the admin at whatever pinball site" thread and changed it into a thread where we talk about pinball - I like the irony

[TheManFromPOST]

David, yes that was the auction that I was talking about
The table was even in Ballarat, easy pick up
But as you can see, no backbox, no lockdown bar, no legs

Shame to think the guy will probably junk it now

[Shockman]

Shame. LOL

[tiltjlp]

Really nice signature you added Phil. I'm sure it reflects your real personality.

[Shockman]

I'm glad you like it, John. I don't know why you do, but I'm glad. You must think it's a joke. Only 5 words, maybe that's it.
My personality, no, but how I feel about this thread and the request that failed to bring the honesty to it. I hope it reflects enough about how I feel about it anyway.

[tiltjlp]

Originally Posted by Shockman

I'm glad you like it, John. I don't know why you do, but I'm glad. You must think it's a joke. Only 5 words, maybe that's it.
My personality, no, but how I feel about this thread and the request that failed to bring the honesty to it. I hope it reflects enough about how I feel about it anyway.

That was tongue-in-cheek irony on my part. As for the thread, our forum software doesn't allow moved posts to be appended to another thread in the way you want, So I have edited the title of this thread to show that it wasn't started by you. That's really the best that can be done.

[Shockman]

Originally Posted by StevOz

Yes, three at least, at my last count Shockie.

Anyways try this link........

http://pinballnirvana.com/Pacdude/files/

It was VPF staffers that suggested an alt in the first place. I blew one, but there was nothing to tip anyone off with the second one other than my IP address. Just makes you guys liars, I can live with that if you can. I guess you want that one table I was able to get before the IP ban back.?

[StevOz]

The above post moved here by me.

[Shockman]

:sex: elvic_thrust2: Do me next Steve.

[StevOz]

Originally Posted by Shockman

:sex: Do me next Steve.

Ah hahahahahahahaha!

[Shockman]

In a Shockman vs VPF thread? You are a fucking idiot Steve. What does the implication that you are a ass licker have to do with VPF? Why are the insults to other members and staffers OK where they fall, but you have to move the ones about you here. As a staffer you are a sick joke.

[StevOz]

Thanks Shockman, high compliments indeed, coming from you.

[TheManFromPOST]

StevOz would have to be the most level headed and impartial moderator that I have seen

[Shockman]

Perhaps, but look at the others.

[Shockman]

The longest stick you can find is good, even if it to don't reach?

[elton]

Not that this adds anything, but I thought that Shockman, Shockie and Shocky were all the same person eg the original Shockman. Where there was a conversation between any two of 'them' I thought this was just friendly banter between the same person (if you know what I mean)! So this is very confusing. Do I gather that Shockman and Shockie are the same but Shocky is somebody different? Wow ... re-reading this post (before posting) it sure looks weird but I think I understand me.