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oldude 03-05-2017 09:31 AM

hayburners2 manual/schematic & mechanical?
 
Picked up a hayburners2 and need manual/schematic.I talked to Steve Young about the clutches for the horse mechanics.He said that the clutch leathers should be treated with neatsfoot oil.Just wondering if anyone else has done this.I realize his word is pretty good but want to make sure first and see what the owners manual says.I had to order all new springs for clutch assembly's as the springs were all broken.I'm hoping for a PDF on either manual/schematic or at least PDF on page discussing clutches.Thanks

Coil_Smoke 03-16-2017 11:43 AM

Cows Are Neat...? Not In My Experience
 
This looks like real fun for two people. That back box animation brings a form of mechanical memory to EM machines. Allowing the same horse race to span two players thru multiple balls. I think those that gave this machine low ratings only played Hayburners II by them selves.
http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1143&picno=4234
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Originally Posted by oldude (Post 109935)
Picked up a hayburners2 and need manual/schematic.I talked to Steve Young about the clutches for the horse mechanics.He said that the clutch leathers should be treated with neatsfoot oil.Just wondering if anyone else has done this.I realize his word is pretty good but want to make sure first and see what the owners manual says.I had to order all new springs for clutch assembly's as the springs were all broken.I'm hoping for a PDF on either manual/schematic or at least PDF on page discussing clutches.Thanks

Generally, oil and clutches, not a good mix. It's hard to dismiss advice from Steve Young. I imagine a good cleaning after the leather swells would do the trick.

Apparently Neatsfoot oil and leather are made for each other by each other...

Neatsfoot oil is a yellow oil rendered and purified from the shin bones and feet (but not the hooves) of cattle. "Neat" in the oil's name comes from an old English word for cattle. Neatsfoot oil is used as a conditioning, softening and preservative agent for leather. In the 18th century, it was also used medicinally as a topical application for dry scaly skin conditions.


"Prime neatsfoot oil" or "neatsfoot oil compound" are terms used for a blend of pure neatsfoot oil and non-animal oils, generally mineral or other petroleum-based oils.


Fat from warm-blooded animals normally has a high melting point, becoming hard when cool – but neatsfoot oil remains liquid at room temperature. This is because the relatively slender legs and feet of animals such as cattle are adapted to tolerate and maintain much lower temperatures than those of the body core, using countercurrent heat exchange in the legs between warm arterial and cooler venous blood – other body fat would become stiff at these temperatures. This characteristic of neatsfoot oil allows it to soak easily into leather.
Modern neatsfoot oil is still made from cattle-based products, and is sometimes criticized for a tendency to speed oxidation of leather. This formulation does darken leather, which means that use on light-colored leather is likely to change its color. If mineral oil or other petroleum-based material is added, the product may be called "neatsfoot oil compound". Some brands have also been shown to be adulterated with rapeseed oil, soya oil, and other oils. The addition of mineral oils may lead to more rapid decay of non-synthetic stitching or speed breakdown of the leather itself.

Does it make good biscuits...?

http://mirror2.ipdb.org/images/1143/1143f1.jpg

Does it look like the horse is vomiting ...?

oldude 03-25-2017 12:12 PM

Well I went ahead and soaked the clutch leathers in neatsfoot oil.Not sure if the oil took care of the problem or the new springs.Anyhow it works great.Part # for the springs is 10-304/10A-304 from Marco.I think they were $.75 each x 7.Next up is a Bank a Ball


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