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Coil_Smoke 04-01-2017 07:47 PM

Inevitable ... ?
Well, The first president in USA history has resigned. President Donald John Trump surrendered to Media demands, dropped the microphone and quit. The Clinton's could not be reached today for comment. The White House is up for grabs ...C_S

Ike Savage 04-01-2017 09:39 PM

Aroo... first!? What about me? Am I nothing but chopped liver?!

StevOz 04-01-2017 09:49 PM

Of course the White House is up for grabs, it will soon be replaced by the Gold House on top of Trump Tower...

Coil_Smoke 04-02-2017 01:54 PM

Did Mat Groenig invent that 'AROO' Bit? <iframe width="560" height="315" src="" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

pinballfan1 04-25-2017 02:23 AM

There is a good chance of it happening.

Ike Savage 04-25-2017 04:17 PM

"aroo" was apparently billy west's idea.

the idea is that nixon is making a werewolf-like call.

agnew of course played frankenstein's monster.

StevOz 05-11-2017 04:50 AM I had another aroooo moment today! ;)

Totally ridiculous premise and lyrics, still this has more arooo!

Ike Savage 05-11-2017 08:17 PM

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care for some after dinner impeach-mints?

StevOz 05-12-2017 04:21 AM


Originally Posted by Ike Savage (Post 110094)
care for some after dinner impeach-mints?

Only if Trump is there for his last supper! :awaken:

Ike Savage 05-12-2017 06:43 AM
"Oh, he'll be there."

"I have a feeling he'll be the... guest of honor."

(ominous laughter)


Coil_Smoke 05-13-2017 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by Ike Savage (Post 110094)
care for some after dinner impeach-mints?

Looks like a Nixon-Eisenhower hybrid :peace:

Ike Savage 05-14-2017 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Coil_Smoke (Post 110099)
Looks like a Nixon-Eisenhower hybrid :peace:

it's even more recent than that. :P

Coil_Smoke 05-17-2017 12:18 AM

Right...Hybrid Clone Date; Circa November, 1992

Ike Savage 05-17-2017 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by Coil_Smoke (Post 110118)
Right...Hybrid Clone Date; Circa November, 1992

It's Drumpf and Nixon, Coil Smoke.

Coil_Smoke 05-20-2017 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by Ike Savage (Post 110119)
It's Drumpf and Nixon, Coil Smoke.

I got that straight off. 1992 is a mashup of their election years.

Ike Savage 05-20-2017 07:08 PM

ah, gotcha.

still, don't blame me for this mess... *I* voted for paulsen.

LeeVanCleef 05-21-2017 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Coil_Smoke (Post 110121)
I got that straight off. 1992 is a mashup of their election years.

You're a mashup of an ignoramus and a moron. The question is, does that make you a "maroon" or an "ignoranimus"?

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LeeVanCleef 05-21-2017 02:11 PM

If there's a reason why this site is no longer a pleasant place to visit, it's because Keith will always be lurking around to ruin it with his idiotic political bullshit fed to him by the drug addicts and child molestors that infest the AM radio talk shows that he listens to. Keith, you're either a fucking idiot, a fucking lunatic or a fucking traitor. Possibly all three. Everyone is now well aware that your president is all three of them.

Ike Savage 05-21-2017 08:23 PM

don't be tossin' him no softballs now, bill!

what is it with you two, anyway? sounds like you folks quarreled at some other site, or maybe one of the VP chatrooms.

and to be fair, i think PN getting more quiet over the years has mostly been about the old guard moving on and most of the VP development being centered on newer sites. personally i don't mind sticking around and chatting a bit, but we don't really have anyone taking the lead on that stuff like sleepy and others used to do.

i love reddit and comment a lot there, but pretty much all my convos there involve an ever-changing kaleidoscope of humanity. i kind of miss talking to a common group of people and getting to know them over time. :/

Ike Savage 05-21-2017 09:30 PM

also... it's probably best to be clear on my own views, re: trump:

i thought he was a highly-amusing political candidate even as he was an utter farce upon the same. but that's also sort of the pat paulsen (and many others) territory, which is something of a grand, fine old tradition.

but as a POTUS? as a POTUS i consider him an utter, unmitigated disaster. much worse than simply being an international embarrassment, he is in fact helping drive civilisation to extinction in any number of ways. the main reason i don't tend to make all this more personal than i already do with friends and acquaintances is because i can -also- see some of the factors that contributed to his election, and can understand (to some extent) why people would genuinely believe he was the best possible choice. but that's a long, winding, complicated story that's hard to really get in to with most folks.

honestly, i think each one of us is a unique mix of genius and dumbassery. i have no doubt that loads of trump voters have far more developed life skills and talents than i do across a range of areas. yet that's not at issue, today.

StevOz 05-22-2017 05:28 AM

LeeVanCleef 05-22-2017 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by Ike Savage (Post 110127)
don't be tossin' him no softballs now, bill!

what is it with you two, anyway? sounds like you folks quarreled at some other site, or maybe one of the VP chatrooms.

I think I mentioned before that I came to PN the day after Black Tuesday and found Keith spouting his idiotic "fake news" blather in the chatbox. That just happened to coincide with the last day I took shit from fucking idiots who want to willfully destroy our country, all because they're breathtakingly stupid. We are four months into our ringside seats to this country eating itself from the inside-out, yet here's good ol' Keith, cheering from the sidelines and posting more horseshit because he has chosen to remain the same ignorant person he was when he popped his head out of his mother's hole. Hey, there's nothing wrong with being born ignorant. We all are... tabula rasa, right? But if that person wants to stay ignorant for the rest of their lives, if their inability to tell truth from fiction or shit from shinola endangers my country, myself and the people I care about, then that person can really and truly go fuck themselves.

LeeVanCleef 05-22-2017 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Ike Savage (Post 110130)
i can -also- see some of the factors that contributed to his election, and can understand (to some extent) why people would genuinely believe he was the best possible choice.

I couldn't disagree more. At what point do we stop being ignorant, self-absorbed assholes and put the welfare of the other people in our community first? I once bit the bullet and voted for a Republican to be the governor of Kansas, because his Democratic opponent was one of those "anti-choice" religious zealots you see standing in front of the Planned Parenthood clinics. I voted against a strident party-line for what was best for my community. Idiots like Keith can't say they did the same thing.

Here's a good question for all those hardworking Joes and Joe-esses who thought it would be a good idea to have a stupid, hateful, racist conman as our president: did you ever work at a job where you needed help to complete a project that your employment depended on? If so, at what point did you think to yourself "You know the person I want to help me? That one guy two cubicles down who's a complete and utter moron. And he's a total racist, sexist dick to everyone! He's the guy that can help me save my job!" Math doesn't get any easier than adding 1+1. If you come up with "3" as your answer, then you're an idiot, plain and simple.
The New York Times did a story on the pervasiveness of painkillers and heroin in Trumpland. They talked to a farmer right there in Ohio where you live, nic. He has had two children die of drug overdoses and the only one who's left is in rehab, and I bet he doesn't last out the year... or, if he does, he'll probably be breaking into your house to steal your personal belongings and feed his addiction... but ol' Farmer Dumbass voted for Trump because "he talks tough." This incompetent fuckwit doesn't even have the basic parenting skills to keep a single one of his own children from being drug addicts, but he thinks he's a well-informed voter who knows what's best for the United States of America? This is the 21st fucking century, man! We, as a nation... as a planet!... are facing drastic changes both wonderful and catastrophic. Do we really have the time to waste cleaning up the messes left to us by people like Farmer Dumbass and Keith who weren't smart enough not to take a shit on the White House lawn?

LeeVanCleef 05-22-2017 07:34 PM

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But I'm sure that Keith is right and that Hillary Clinton is the most successful sociopath ever to walk the planet. Which , in itself, would be extraordinary because the vast majority of sociopaths are male. She has been in the public eye for some 40 years. She has been investigated and investigated and investigated and investigated and if I repeat that word 30 more times it will barely touch the tip of the shitberg of what she's been through at the hands of greedy, stupid people who want to see their own faces on Faux "News". But she has never once been convicted of a single, solitary crime. She has never once been brought up on any charges. That means she's smarter than Richard Nixon, Donald Trump, Roger Ailes (please don't rest in peace) Bill O'Reilly, drug addict Rush Limbaugh and her own fucking husband. I mean, there's absolutely no comparison for her success as an evil, world-dominating villain in the real world. Hell, even Lex Luthor and Moriarty ended up getting caught! So actually, Hillary Clinton is the most successful sociopath in the real and fictional worlds. And she has never once let her mask slip in 40 years of countless public appearances to show the monster that lurks inside. Not like Donnie does on an hourly basis.

The only other possibility is that Keith is ten pounds of shit in a five-pound bag.

Allow me to quote from the man who created Professor Moriarty: When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.
And this ain't even something that's improbable. It's simple common sense for people capable of being able to tie their own fucking shoelaces.

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Ike Savage 05-22-2017 08:02 PM

i don't disagree with all that. it sounds pretty much like common sense, common decency, basic reason and simple logic to me.

and... anger is a potent motivator, to say the least.

you know there's another (non-VP) forum i've been hanging out at for over ten years which i'm all but done with at this point. it basically got taken over by trumpets right after the election. naturally i spent some time giving it right back to them, but realised that headstrong deaf people don't make for good conversationalists. the main reason i'm done with that place is actually because all of the best posters are now gone and the discussions are utter shite anymore. trumpism definitely had a hand in that, but i think there were more factors involved.

for example-- civilisation is becoming more complicated, stressful and full of pitfalls by the day, and i think the classical human-animal response is to push it away, or willfully disbelieve, or arrange it in a way that makes it seem under control... stuff like that. intelligence combined with openness certainly helps mitigate that, but overall i think people's minds are in retreat, lest they get overwhelmed. the people at that webforums demonstrated that nicely, as do trump voters IMO.

i think most voters here (as elsewhere) are simply unqualified to responsibly vote, and trump isn't the first knucklehead president to back his rump in to office. more like, he represents the worsening of a trend probably heightened by decades of the GOP's war against science and reason, and the voters are pretty much just behaving like the human-animals that they are.

ANYway... as for PN, i really don't see coil smoke (keith?) or anyone else trying to do much politicizing here. i barely pay attention to the chatbox, but i guess i can understand your frustration with that at the time. but overall it seems to me that the few people still posting here are usually helpful towards others and/or sometimes post a fun little snippet of this or that. i don't really see the problem with any particular member or this site itself, particularly in light of the knock-down, drag-out drama that's historically gone on here. *phew*

maybe it's time to buy some dollar-store china and break out ye olde baseball bat. :)

LeeVanCleef 05-22-2017 08:24 PM

LOL! Yeah, you may be right... I may be crazy. But, honestly, Trump isn't some aberration of politics gone bad like Bush was. And the people like you and me who have had so much patience for the complete and utter fuckery people like Keith and the other Trumptards have spewed forth over the years. Not only ol' dipshit Dubya who lied us into a war that left too many United States citizens dead or wounded, but the eight years of lies, filthy lies and damnable lies during the Obama Administration... and now this complete and utter mockery of everything this country has stood for since its founding. Who in their right mind thinks Donald Trump is interested in the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of anyone not named "Trump"? I think what is becoming blatantly evident is that people who can still think have finally and utterly lost their patience with the morons who can't even write a sentence to grunt out their limited and idiotic view of the world. Don't mistake my ranting here as an isolated event. I actually feel sorry for the Trumptards. This isn't going to be a fair fight, because we're just as angry as they have been for eight years... but, at the end of the day, they're really stupid.

Ike Savage 05-22-2017 10:44 PM

WARNING: little bit of a philosophical rant here.

i think man's bias towards conservation of mental resources and the ultra-heavy bias towards self interest inclines us all to be stoopid in any number of ways. to go against that stuff is in fact a battle.

so you have people living in a crowded, tumultuous world who understand (correctly) that decent jobs are getting scarcer, standard of living is slipping and so forth, and *boom* you have a more desperate electorate more willing to gamble, more willing to become addicted to hopium, more willing than ever to vote for an autocrat that represents an anti-political iconoclast to them. then, the concept of "fake news" and "spin" is all too easy to use as a tool for disregarding unpalatable facts about their hopium candidate and even just disregarding the unpalatable nature of reality.

i mean, these are some mighty tasty carrots to appeal towards peoples' willful stupidity. the alternative is a much more stressful and laborious approach to understanding reality. sort of like most peoples' attitude towards global climate change-- if it's not personally affecting them, then it's someone else's problem or even just a big hoax. just some classic bias of the human-animal mind... resisting inconvenient facts.

and then add these types of voters to the classic rural distrust towards regulations / city people... as well as the righteous religious who want to dictate others choices because they can't control their own distaste for gays, abortion, minorities, etc.

i guess my point is is that we're all manipulable creatures, full of cognitive biases, who all struggle with this stuff on the regular. we all have that idiot potential, so it comes down to which of our buttons are being pressed to help us behave that way. so yeah, i think this election was more about the buttons involved than people behaving unusually.

history is a never-ending tapestry of civilisations that spun out of control and sped their own collapse. we're only the latest and greatest IMO. eating humble pie and sacrificing wealth, comfort and convenience so that we can all survive is just too much for people to handle. we're all guilty of it, even us anti-trumpers.

LeeVanCleef 05-22-2017 11:19 PM

Yeah, that seems like a fine assessment of the pickle we find ourselves in. And while there is no precedent for a president who thinks "precedent" is spelled "president" (I wish I was joking. Boy do I wish I was joking), there is a long history of America's stupid voters. I was listening to a Great Courses lecture on Donnie's hero Andrew Jackson, a mean-spirited hateful, thin-skinned egomaniac who , to be fair, could probably spell "precedent" and wasn't a filthy coward when it was time for his country to go to war. Professor Mark Levin described what made American voters idiotic enough to elect that carnival sideshow in the 1820s:

In an era of drastic change, people will look to a past idea for reassurance. The old concept of Janus-faced, of facing in two opposite directions of walking backwards into the future.

And he said that about seven years before Donnie decided to make America Great Again. The big difference between Andrew Jackson and Donnie Trump is that the people in the 1820s didn't have to wake up every morning wondering if their precedent was going to something globally stupid that would end in a mushroom cloud. They only had to worry about whether Andrew was going to show up at their door and shoot them in person.

All I knows is that, over the weekend I read that there's moss growing at the South Pole. Moss. Growing at the South Pole. We are so fucked. We are so good and fucked. I sure hope I don't have to live through what's going to happen. I sure hope all the Trumptards do. Gonna be tough bitching and whining about Hillary's emails when your computer is sitting under six feet of water at the place where you used to have a house.

I should add that, while I agree that we do all have our failings, the two simple things we should be smart enough to handle are common sense and common decency. Those are two ingredients missing from Donald Trump's Stupid Heads Club Band.

Coil_Smoke 05-23-2017 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by LeeVanCleef (Post 110126)
If there's a reason why this site is no longer a pleasant place to visit, it's because Keith will always be lurking around to ruin it with his idiotic political bullshit fed to him by the drug addicts and child molestors that infest the AM radio talk shows that he listens to. Keith, you're either a fucking idiot, a fucking lunatic or a fucking traitor. Possibly all three.

Holy Shit Guys. This is supposed to be funny right? I have never seen such butt hurt sycophantic bleeding heart nonsense in all my life! And "Lee Van Queef" You give me way more credit than I earn for some old posts last year...The Power To Devastate You and wreck an entire web site! Taking it personally grossly over inflates your perceived self importance to this world. I have never addressed you in any personal way at all, ever. And NO guys, I don't engage in this type of discourse at any other site other than YouTube. No Face Page, none of it. I came here for the PINBALL and better understanding of how they work. Starting to post in this forum was therapy for me. It helped and forced me to slowly improve from devastating illness in 2011. I love helping others with pinball repairs. I appreciate interacting with every single *soul* @ Pinball Nirvana. I wish I had had more time to converse and learn from those now departed.
* Even you "L.V. Pussy Fart !" *

As for politics...I ask you to look at what allegiance to the Clinton/Bush/Obama crime family and controlled media has done to you and US. They continue to fracture and fuck all of US. It's not you and me, bud! Preserving terrorism and drugs is their main scheme. Hillary Clinton is the destroyer... OFF ALL SIDES. This woman has managed to ruin anyone and every one who interacts with her. For her or against her, IT DOES NOT MATTER! This is an amazing accomplishment. So, bill...Look at the joy she has brought you!

P.S. I started this page as an APRIL FOOLS JOKE. I made it politically inert and still think that joke is. Until today, I believe I have not said anything truly political since 2 DAYS BEFORE the election. Talk about living in the past! That was OVER half a year ago. Your reaction to political humor/imagery is some thin skinned bullshit. Taking it personally grossly over inflates your perceived importance in this world and makes you look a tad unstable. And NO, I don't listen to AM radio. I have not gloated over our president's victory though thrilled by this resurgence of true patriotism. The man is donating 100% of his overseas profits to the US treasury for Christ's sake. The Main Scheme Media is acting so childish, I am amazed you take one word of it seriously. Why you take this thread so seriously makes you look like :trippy:Psycho-Bill:no:, After re-reading the above, I think you are conflicted...At Best :wave:

Coil_Smoke 05-23-2017 11:43 AM

Well, there was this>>>
We have witnessed the end of Media controlled government. This is the first time in U.S. history our corporate controlled Media lost an election. The collusion between organized crime + centralized government + corporate controlled Media is being systematically disassembled. This peaceful revolution is happening in many countries. Brazil has impeached a corrupted president. George Soros & crew are creating the turmoil in that country, same as in the US, trying to save his sick empire.The British patriots defeated their corrupted Media and got their nation out of the E.U. while they still had a nation to protect and the E.U. collapses. This is how the old system dies and the end of that evil world order.

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